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FTE Podcast: Southwest’s Kevin Kleist on AI, Robotics, Startups & Human-Centred Aviation Innovation

21 May 2026 APEX Future Travel Experience Podcast Season 1 • Episode 2 Featuring Kevin Kleist, Max Gosney

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Discover how Southwest Airlines’ Kevin Kleist views the future of aviation innovation, from AI and robotics to autonomous ramp operations, startup collaboration and the vital role of frontline employee engagement.

In this episode of the FTE Podcast, host Max Flight speaks with Kevin Kleist, Head of Emerging Trends at Southwest Airlines and Head of Innovation & Startup Engagement at Future Travel Experience, about what it really takes to turn emerging technology into practical progress for airlines, airports, passengers and employees.

The conversation explores why the biggest opportunity in aviation technology is not one single breakthrough, but the way multiple technologies are now coming together around real industry challenges. Kevin explains how AI is moving from experimentation into embedded workflows, helping teams make faster decisions, reduce complexity, understand problems earlier and personalise the passenger journey.

A major theme throughout the episode is the idea of technology in service of people. Rather than framing AI, autonomy and robotics purely as replacements for human talent, Kevin argues that aviation leaders should focus on how technology can reduce friction, improve safety, enhance visibility and give employees more time to focus on empathy, judgement, coordination and problem-solving.

The episode also looks at the growing role of autonomy and robotics across the ramp, baggage, ground handling and airport operations. Kevin discusses why these environments are physically demanding, time-sensitive, safety-critical and highly variable — and why any successful rollout must involve frontline employees early, openly and honestly.

Max and Kevin also explore employee-led innovation, startup engagement, passenger expectations, baggage transformation, disruption recovery and the importance of collective learning across the aviation industry. Kevin makes the case that the people closest to the work are often closest to the opportunity, and that the industry will move faster if airlines, airports, suppliers, startups and working groups share lessons more openly.

The episode builds naturally on FTE’s mission to bring the aviation industry together to improve the passenger experience, support innovation leadership and accelerate meaningful transformation across the air transport ecosystem.

Topics Discussed in This Episode

AI in Aviation Workflows

How AI is evolving from experimentation into embedded aviation workflows that can help teams make better decisions, reduce complexity and improve the passenger journey.

Human-Centred Innovation

Why technology should be introduced in service of people, not simply because it is new, impressive or commercially fashionable.

Robotics, Autonomy and Ramp Operations

How robotics and autonomous technologies could support baggage handling, ground operations, safety, consistency and operational resilience.

Employee-Led Innovation

Why frontline teams must be involved early in technology trials, and how sceptics can become champions when they understand the purpose and value of change.

Aviation Startups and Industry Collaboration

How startups and aviation stakeholders can work together more effectively by building better bridges between startup speed and aviation discipline.

The Future Passenger Journey

Why passengers will increasingly expect journeys that feel easier, more predictable, less stressful and supported by useful, non-intrusive personalisation.

Collective Learning Across Aviation

Why FTE, the Innovation Hub and aviation working groups can help the industry learn faster by sharing practical lessons on what works, what does not and what it takes to scale innovation.

Key Questions Discussed

  • How is AI moving from experimentation into real aviation workflows?
  • Where can robotics and autonomy make the biggest difference in airport operations?
  • How should aviation leaders respond to frontline concerns about new technology?
  • Why is employee-led innovation so powerful?
  • How can startups better understand the realities of aviation?
  • What will passengers really want from the future travel experience?
  • Could baggage and ramp operations be transformed without overhauling entire airport systems?
  • How can airlines, airports, suppliers and startups learn faster together?

Episode speakers

Kevin Kleist
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Kevin Kleist

Head of Emerging Trends, Southwest Airlines

Kevin Kleist is Head of Emerging Trends at Southwest Airlines. He researches and explores new and emerging tech, products and services to uncover practical and unconventional ideas. His focus is...

Max Gosney
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Max Gosney

Managing Director, Future Travel Experience

Max’s aviation journey began in 2016 when he put on a hi-vis jacket and safety boots and went out on the ramp as part of his induction as Chairman of...

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